Wubi Posted July 26, 2012 Report Posted July 26, 2012 Black Hat – SexyDefense, maximizing the home-field advantage | Naked Securityby Irene Michlin on July 26, 2012I'm attending the BlackHat this year, and one of the most interesting and controversial talks so far was "SexyDefense - Maximizing the home-field advantage" by Iftach Ian Amit.Ian opened with some very good advice about the defensive mindset: there is no final, optimal, best-practice security strategy. It's:a) always evolving specific to your organisationSecurity compliance testing by itself does not improve organisational security. It's what the organisation does after the compliance test or penetration test that matters.The theme of the conference as a whole this year seems to be that the concept of a "perimeter defense" is dead. There will always be gaps and breaches. We need to concentrate on detecting them as soon as possible and responding the best way possible.Our focus should be on finding the next gap in security instead of looking for someone to blame for the previous gap.Another useful piece of advice is to log everything everywhere, and filter later. Storage is cheap, missing an early sign of attack is expensive.Some early warnings will be well outside any IDS system like the volume of calls to support, unusual sales enquiries or odd PC behavior reported by your staff.Ian, similarly to keynote speaker Shawn Henry (ex-FBI), draws analogies between real-world defense and cyber-defense, and suggests taking the fight to the bad guys' territory.One example was taking the DarkComet tool, infecting it with itself, and uploading it back to a popular "toolz" website. Everyone who downloaded that version of the tool, was 0wned. Another example was modifying a dodgy packer to leave a distinct signature.The only caveat was: get legal advice appropriate to your country before attempting that at home.I have many more issues with this. I've tried to discuss them with Ian after the talk, but his approach is "we work in a tainted space, it's naive to think we can do that wearing white gloves".But let's consider the classic principle of anti-virus companies: "Don't modify malware, to do that is as bad as creating your own new malware". Is it really naive? We follow this principle even internally, never mind uploading this modified malware anywhere else.Before we consider moral issues, let's consider usefullness of this approach.Why would someone download a new version of your malware? I'd have thought that you would need to provide some useful new functionality. Ian reassures me that's not the case. Most bad guys would just grab the latest version even if there isn't anything new in it. This doesn't eliminate the really clever adversaries. They build their own tools or are not willing to trust random code. Yet we can get the script kiddies while still wearing white gloves.So, you've got some percentage of low-skill hackers who will use your modified tools. You're safe from these attacks. What about all the other attacks:1. High-skill hackers who will use other tools against you2. Low-skill hackers who get their tools elsewhereIf you play that game, how long before you actually write some new attack capabilities into your malware tools, to increase their adoption or to raise your street cred in the group you are infiltrating?This slope is much more slippery than a simple "don't modify even one byte of malware" rule.All of the above assumes that the modification went to plan, and you've done exactly what you wanted to do to this malware. As a developer, I can tell you it's not a good assumption to make with any piece of software, and I don't see why malware would be different.Do you really want a new virus in the wild on your conscience? Even if your tools can detect it, what about everybody else's tools?So now we are back to the moral side of the story. Going back to our comparison to the physical world, this talk seems to suggest we make some guns with a known ballistic signature and give them to criminals.In the words of multiple James Bond villains: what could possibly go wrong?Sursa: Black Hat – SexyDefense, maximizing the home-field advantage | Naked Security Quote