Cifre Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 Mt. Gox is officially filing for bankruptcy protection with an outstanding debt of ¥6.5bn ($63.6m), finally admitting openly that 750,000 of its customers’ bitcoins and 100,000 of the company’s own have been lost.The exchange’s lawyer announced the news during a conference at the Tokyo District Court late on Friday afternoon, Japan time. CEO Mark Karpeles, wearing a suit and tie, bowed deeply in the tradition of disgraced Japanese business leaders fronting the media.Karpelesbows2Subtitles read: “The 750,000 bitcoins we kept for users, (37,000 million yen), almost all gone.”The 850,000 BTC loss figure is higher than the 744,400 figure mentioned in the so-called “Crisis Strategy Draft” document leaked and released by Ryan Galt, aka The Two-Bit Idiot, earlier in the week.That same document also described fiat assets of $32.43m and liabilities of $55m. The assets include $5m “held by CoinLab” and another $5.5m “held by the DHS”. The Department of Homeland Security seized that amount from Mt. Gox’s US accounts in mid 2013, claiming it had not registered properly as a money transmission business. Nightmare weekIt’s been a nightmare week for Mt. Gox and its customers, with much of the situation’s true nature still mired in online speculation, rumor and conspiracy theories. The exact fate of all Mt. Gox customers’ bitcoins is still unclear: how such an amount came to be lost or stolen without anyone knowing or taking action, whether ‘transaction malleability’ was indeed behind it, or whether they were transferred to other addresses or lost to the bitcoin network altogether.CEO Karpeles resigned his position on the Bitcoin Foundation Board just four days ago, beginning a chain of events that culminated in today’s press event. Shortly after that, Mt. Gox’s entire Twitter history disappeared, the ‘crisis’ documents were leaked, and then the website went completely offline, taking with it most customer hopes of ever seeing their money again.The domain mtgox.com now features only a blank page with the Mt. Gox logo and two short statements, one of which reads “In light of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox’s operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly.”The most recent, from 26th February, reassures everyone that Karpeles is still in Japan and “working very hard with the support of different parties to find a solution to our recent issues.”While no regulatory action is guaranteed in Japan, federal prosecutors in New York City have subpoenaed Mt. Gox and requested that it preserve documents that may be relevant.Protest ends, customers lamentKolin Burges, who triggered media interest around the world with his protest outside Mt. Gox’s office and confrontation with Karpeles nearly two weeks ago, took the opportunity to back up his signs and head back to London.Most customers have now resigned themselves to losing hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars, including those who claim to have lost business startup capital, college funds or even entire life savings in the crash. Burges himself claimed to have lost around $300,000 in bitcoins.Source: Mt. Gox Files for Bankruptcy, Claims $63.6m Debt 1 Quote
dicksi Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 nu are nici un stres tipu chiar un zambet interiorizat,chiar i-ar trebui un seppuku.era o persoana pe bitcointalk care ameninta acum cateva luni ca se sinucide daca nu-si primeste inapoi "entire life savings" depuse atunci... Quote
1337 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 nu are nici un stres tipu chiar un zambet interiorizat,chiar i-ar trebui un seppuku.era o persoana pe bitcointalk care ameninta acum cateva luni ca se sinucide daca nu-si primeste inapoi "entire life savings" depuse atunci...Deja se sinucid baietii, sunt persoane care au pierdut mai mult de 4500BTC.De asta trebuie sa iti tii banutii pe un paper wallet, e cel mai sigur, sau cel putin intr-un wallet dintr-o masina virtuala.Oricum nu le cred povestea.Sunt mai mult ca sigur ca el e bagat doar la inaintare, "papusarul" e unul mult mai mare. 1 Quote
awnly3jhc2g Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 Deja se sinucid baietii, sunt persoane care au pierdut mai mult de 4500BTC.De asta trebuie sa iti tii banutii pe un paper wallet, e cel mai sigur, sau cel putin intr-un wallet dintr-o masina virtuala.Oricum nu le cred povestea.Sunt mai mult ca sigur ca el e bagat doar la inaintare, "papusarul" e unul mult mai mare.Astazi e prima oara cand aud de termenul "paper wallet" in subiectul bitcoin. Foarte interesant, multumesc. Mi se pare super tare sa iti pastrezi banii offline. Quote
1337 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Astazi e prima oara cand aud de termenul "paper wallet" in subiectul bitcoin. Foarte interesant, multumesc. Mi se pare super tare sa iti pastrezi banii offline.Daca vrei sa fii sigur ca nu o sa ai probleme generezi wallet-ul offline pe o un PC cu Linux,ballance-ul il verifici pe blockchain.info dupa adresa iar daca vrei sa trimiti / muti BTC-urile trebuie sa-ti bagi cheia privata in bitcoin-qt (cea de pe paper-wallet).E cea mai buna idee la ora actuala, dar si un wallet encriptat e o solutie buna, encriptare in client + container TrueCrypt.Plus ca scapi de frica wallet-ului corupt, daca esti ghinionist si ti se strica HDD-ul (irecuperabil) ti s-au dus si BTC-urile / LTC-urile samd.Cei care si-au pierdut BTC-urile in Gox si le-au pierdut pe barba lor, centralizarea si atacul 51% sunt cele mai mari pericole la ora actuala.Poti sa-ti lasi BTC-urile mostenire pe-un paper wallet. Edited March 2, 2014 by 1337 Quote
seanwilliam1988 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 So where are those BTCs now? It’s so impossible that it will just disappear. There might be something fishy going on from the very start. Anyway, thanks for that informative news. You might want to include bitcoindaily.com on your reading list about bitcoin’s news. Quote