Kev Posted August 10, 2020 Report Posted August 10, 2020 The block was put in place at the end of July and is enforced via China's Great Firewall. The Chinese government has deployed an update to its national censorship tool, known as the Great Firewall (GFW), to block encrypted HTTPS connections that are being set up using modern, interception-proof protocols and technologies. The ban has been in place for at least a week, since the end of July, according to a joint report published this week by three organizations tracking Chinese censorship -- iYouPort, the University of Maryland, and the Great Firewall Report. CHINA NOW BLOCKING HTTPS+TLS1.3+ESNI Through the new GFW update, Chinese officials are only targeting HTTPS traffic that is being set up with new technologies like TLS 1.3 and ESNI (Encrypted Server Name Indication). Other HTTPS traffic is still allowed through the Great Firewall, if it uses older versions of the same protocols -- such as TLS 1.1 or 1.2, or SNI (Server Name Indication). For HTTPS connections set up via these older protocols, Chinese censors can infer to what domain a user is trying to connect. This is done by looking at the (plaintext) SNI field in the early stages of an HTTPS connections. In HTTPS connections set up via the newer TLS 1.3, the SNI field can be hidden via ESNI, the encrypted version of the old SNI. As TLS 1.3 usage continues to grow around the web, HTTPS traffic where TLS 1.3 and ESNI is used is now giving Chinese sensors headaches, as they're now finding it harder to filter HTTPS traffic and control what content the Chinese population can access. Image: Qualys SSL Labs (via SixGen) Per the findings of the joint report, the Chinese government is currently dropping all HTTPS traffic where TLS 1.3 and ESNI are used, and temporarily banning the IP addresses involved in the connection, for small intervals of time that can vary between two and three minutes. SOME CIRCUMVENTION METHODS EXIST... FOR NOW For now, iYouPort, the University of Maryland, and the Great Firewall Report said they were able to find six circumvention techniques that can be applied client-side (inside apps and software) and four that can be applied server-side (on servers and app backends) to bypass the GFW's current block. Quote "Unfortunately, these specific strategies may not be a long-term solution: as the cat and mouse game progresses, the Great Firewall will likely to continue to improve its censorship capabilities," the three organizations also added. ZDNet also confirmed the report's findings with two additional sources -- namely members of a US telecommunications provider and an internet exchange point (IXP) -- using instructions provided in this mailing list Via zdnet.com. 3 Quote
Nytro Posted August 10, 2020 Report Posted August 10, 2020 Clasic China. Monitorizare peste tot. Cel putin asa pare din-afara. Stie cineva vreun chinez sa ne zica parerea? Quote
andr82 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Nytro said: Clasic China. Monitorizare peste tot. Cel putin asa pare din-afara. Stie cineva vreun chinez sa ne zica parerea? Eu nu "pricep" de ce fac acest lucru. Ce rost are sa permiti doar traficul mai vulnerabil in tara ta? Nu este sigur TLS 1.3? Eu cred ca tocmai este invers 1.3 acopera o gama larga de slabiciuni pe care le prezenta 1.2. Sa zicem ca putea decripta sau monitoriza pe 1.2 si acum nu mai poate pe 1.3 de ce sa il blochezi? Le este frica sa nu comunice spionii ascunsi cu occidentul prin TLS 1.3? Nu voi intelege aceasta natie niciodata... Quote
Nytro Posted August 10, 2020 Report Posted August 10, 2020 Aici nu vorba de trafic slab ci de faptul ca ceea ce blocheaza acum nu poate fi monitorizat. In pachetele TLS in general se poate vedea serverul destinatie (e.g. rstforums.com). Ei bine, cu acest nou feature, nu se mai vede si ei nu au cum sa stie pe ce site-uri intra oamenii... 1 Quote
ardu2222 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Nytro said: Aici nu vorba de trafic slab ci de faptul ca ceea ce blocheaza acum nu poate fi monitorizat. In pachetele TLS in general se poate vedea serverul destinatie (e.g. rstforums.com). Ei bine, cu acest nou feature, nu se mai vede si ei nu au cum sa stie pe ce site-uri intra oamenii... Adica daca imi activez acum in Firefox TLS 1.3 cei de la Digi nu mai pot vedea in Gateway pe ce site intru? Edited August 10, 2020 by ardu2222 Quote
Nytro Posted August 10, 2020 Report Posted August 10, 2020 TLS 1.3 cu ESNI. Cred ca toate detaliile sunt aici: https://blog.cloudflare.com/esni/ 1 Quote