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1 hour ago, Nytro said:

Ah, hydrogel bio ala era cu cipuri si senzori? Eu il folosesc pe post de lubrifiant, isi face treaba!

PS: Hidrogel gasiti pe emag: https://www.emag.ro/hidrogel-horticol-1kg-hidrogel1000/pd/DCSM7CBBM/

 

Asta e  epica: "acesta s-ar conecta la rețeaua wireless, Internetul Lucrurilor (IoT – Internet of Things)" - Trebuie sa fii retardat (stiind putin IT) sa crezi mizeriile din acel articol. :)) 

 

Un microchip 5G cat un bob de orez? Cu tot cu antena? Apropo, am lucrat la o firma unde un coleg citea standardul 3G sau 4G nu mai stiu ce era atunci, acum ceva ani. Mizeria aia de document de specificatii avea 2-3 MII de pagini. De ce ar folosi 5G si nu GSM normal? Vor sa aiba viteza de download de peste 1Gbps cand trag porno 4K sau 8K la noi in corp, nu?

 

Ba, eu inteleg ca exista Gigel care fac bani din vizualizari ale dobitocilor pe mizeriile pe care le scriu, dar in cacat, sa vina cu niste teorii ale conspiratiei mai pertinente si mai logice. Probabil nici bunica-mea nu crede cacaturile alea. 

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10 hours ago, Nytro said:

Ba, eu inteleg ca exista Gigel care fac bani din vizualizari ale dobitocilor pe mizeriile pe care le scriu, dar in cacat, sa vina cu niste teorii ale conspiratiei mai pertinente si mai logice. Probabil nici bunica-mea nu crede cacaturile alea. 

matusa-mea m-a sunat sa imi explice ca se inchide facebook-ul din cauza covidului

 

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On 9/5/2020 at 12:15 PM, Nytro said:

Ah, hydrogel bio ala era cu cipuri si senzori? Eu il folosesc pe post de lubrifiant, isi face treaba!

PS: Hidrogel gasiti pe emag: https://www.emag.ro/hidrogel-horticol-1kg-hidrogel1000/pd/DCSM7CBBM/

 

Asta e  epica: "acesta s-ar conecta la rețeaua wireless, Internetul Lucrurilor (IoT – Internet of Things)" - Trebuie sa fii retardat (stiind putin IT) sa crezi mizeriile din acel articol. :)) 

 

Un microchip 5G cat un bob de orez? Cu tot cu antena? Apropo, am lucrat la o firma unde un coleg citea standardul 3G sau 4G nu mai stiu ce era atunci, acum ceva ani. Mizeria aia de document de specificatii avea 2-3 MII de pagini. De ce ar folosi 5G si nu GSM normal? Vor sa aiba viteza de download de peste 1Gbps cand trag porno 4K sau 8K la noi in corp, nu?

 

Ba, eu inteleg ca exista Gigel care fac bani din vizualizari ale dobitocilor pe mizeriile pe care le scriu, dar in cacat, sa vina cu niste teorii ale conspiratiei mai pertinente si mai logice. Probabil nici bunica-mea nu crede cacaturile alea. 

This article from Defense One was already reporting in March 2020 that the biosensor was on track to get FDA approval in early 2021, which is around the same time we have been told to expect the rollout of the COVID vaccine.

Teorii ale conspiratiei...nytro faci dumping pentru cei care lucrezi care le-au inchis situl celor de la ortodoxinfo  de doua ori si pentru ce ,pentru ca TRADUC niste articole care nu corespund agendei globaliste ?.Trebuie sa fii retardat sa nu observi ca forumul a devenit un honeypot...

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5 hours ago, shitshow said:

This article from Defense One was already reporting in March 2020 that the biosensor was on track to get FDA approval in early 2021, which is around the same time we have been told to expect the rollout of the COVID vaccine.

Teorii ale conspiratiei...nytro faci dumping pentru cei care lucrezi care le-au inchis situl celor de la ortodoxinfo  de doua ori si pentru ce ,pentru ca TRADUC niste articole care nu corespund agendei globaliste ?.Trebuie sa fii retardat sa nu observi ca forumul a devenit un honeypot...

@shitshow trebuie sa evoluezi baiatule de la povesti cu zane si fat-frumos.Pun pariu ca iti platesc parintii sau sotia netul :)

P.S: activitatea de Guru al Universului si al planetei Nibiru nu e trecuta in CAEN daca intelegi ce spun.

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Da, e vorba de o inflamatie la coloana vertebrala. Scria pe undeva ca "se mai intampla" la testarea vaccinurilor. 

 

Cipul are prea multi tranzistori si undele sale bio-electro-magnetice interfereaza cu undele encefalo-neurlogice transmise de catre coloana vertebrala in corp (acele mesaje de Keep-Alive intre coloana si organe pentru a determina downtime-ul unora). Un fel de Human Jammer acest cip...

 

Mama, as fi bun de facut o mizerie dinaceea de site conspirationist, as face avere. 

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mda... conspiratii...

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/darpa-funded-implantable-biochip-detect-covid-19-could-hit-markets-2021

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The most significant scientific discovery since gravity has been hiding in plain sight for nearly a decade and its destructive potential to humanity is so enormous that the biggest war machine on the planet immediately deployed its vast resources to possess and control it, financing its research and development through agencies like the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and HHS’ BARDA.

 

The revolutionary breakthrough came to a Canadian scientist named Derek Rossi in 2010 purely by accident. The now-retired Harvard professor claimed in an interview with the National Post that he found a way to “reprogram” the molecules that carry the genetic instructions for cell development in the human body, not to mention all biological lifeforms.

These molecules are called ‘messenger ribonucleic acid’ or mRNA and the newfound ability to rewrite those instructions to produce any kind of cell within a biological organism has radically changed the course of Western medicine and science, even if no one has really noticed yet. As Rossi, himself, puts it: “The real important discovery here was you could now use mRNA, and if you got it into the cells, then you could get the mRNA to express any protein in the cells, and this was the big thing.”

It was so big that by 2014, Rossi was able to retire after the company he co-founded with Flagship Pioneering private equity firm to exploit his innovation, – Moderna Inc., attracted almost a half billion dollars in federal award monies to begin developing vaccines using the technology. No longer affiliated with Moderna beyond his stock holdings, Rossi is just “watching for what happens next” and if he’s anything like the doting “hockey dad” he is portrayed to be, he must be horrified.

Remote control biology

As early as 2006, DARPA was already researching how to identify viral, upper respiratory pathogens through its Predicting Health and Disease (PHD) program, which led to the creation of the agency’s Biological Technologies Office (BTO), as reported by Whitney Webb in a May article for The Last American Vagabond. In 2014, DARPA’s BTO launched its “In Vivo Nanoplatforms” (IVN) program, which researches implantable nanotechnologies, leading to the development of ‘hydrogel’.

Hydrogel is a nanotechnology whose inventor early on boasted that “If [it] pans out, with approval from FDA, then consumers could get the sensors implanted in their core to measure their levels of glucose, oxygen, and lactate.” This contact lens-like material requires a special injector to be introduced under the skin where it can transmit light-based digital signals through a wireless network like 5G.

A penny aside a 3D printed hydrogel model of a lung-mimicking air sac in Rice University’s Houston BRC lab. Melissa Phillip | Houston Chronicle via AP

Once firmly implanted inside the body, human cells are at the mercy of any mRNA program delivered via this substrate, unleashing a nightmare of possibilities. It is, perhaps, the first true step towards full-on transhumanism; a “philosophy” that is in vogue with many powerful and influential people, such as Google’s Ray Kurzweil and Eric Schmidt and whose proponents see the fusion of technology and biology as an inevitable consequence of human progress.

The private company created to market this technology, that allows for biological processes to be controlled remotely and opens the door to the potential manipulation of our biological responses and, ultimately, our entire existence, is called Profusa Inc and its operations are funded with millions from NIH and DARPA. In March, the company was quietly inserted into the crowded COVID-19 bazaar in March 2020, when it announced an injectable biochip for the detection of viral respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.

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A wholly-owned subsidiary

In July, a preliminary report funded by Fauci’s NIAID and the NIH on an mRNA Vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 was published in The New England Journal of Medicine, concluding that mRNA-1273 vaccine. provided by Moderna for the study, “induced anti–SARS-CoV-2 immune responses in all participants, and no trial-limiting safety concerns were identified,” and supported “further development of this vaccine.”

A month earlier, the NIH had claimed a joint stake in Moderna’s mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, citing a contract signed in December, 2019, stipulating that the “mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates [are] developed and jointly owned” by both parties. Moderna disputes the federal government’s position, stating that the company “has a broad owned and licensed IP estate” and is “not aware of any IP that would prevent us from commercializing our product candidates, including mRNA-1273.”

A poster seeking volunteers to take part in a COVID-19 vaccine study by the NIH and Moderna Inc., July 27, 2020, in Binghamton, N.Y. Hans Pennink | AP

The only obstacle is a delivery system, which though Moderna claims to be developing separately, is unlikely to get FDA approval before the federal government’s own DARPA-developed hydrogel technology, in tandem with Profusa’s DARPA-funded light sensor technology, which is expected to receive fast track authorization from the Food and Drug Administration by early 2021 and, more than likely, used to deploy a coronavirus vaccine with the capacity to literally change our DNA.

In addition, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), is currently investigating Moderna’s patent filings, claiming it failed to disclose “federal government support” in its COVID vaccine candidate patent applications, as required by law. The technicality could result in the federal government owning a 100 percent stake in mRNA-1273.

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„Datele referitoare la numărul persoanelor declarate vindecate sunt indisponibile la acest moment, urmare a unor actualizări tehnice în sistemul de raportare și în aplicația de centralizare a datelor. Aceste date vor fi comunicate în cel mai scurt timp posibil, imediat ce devin disponibile”, s-a menționat în comunicatul emis zilnic de GCS în perioada marți-joi.

https://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/actualitate/peste-88-000-de-persoane-s-au-vindecat-de-covid-19-in-romania-cate-cazuri-mai-sunt-active.html

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“So, we’ve essentially been taken over by the medical Taliban, if you like.”

I pressed him one last time:

“David, in conclusion, finish this sentence: “The PCR test for Corona is as good as…”

His reply made me laugh. I didn’t know I still could laugh.

“It’s as good as that Scientology test that detects your personality and then tells you need to give all your money to Scientology. “

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

The Corona Simulation Machine: Why the Inventor of The “Corona Test” Would Have Warned Us Not To Use It To Detect A Virus

SS: Too bad Kary Mullis conveniently isn’t alive to see how his PCR test is being misused regarding SARS-CoV-2 and call out Dr. Fauci on TV like he dreamed of.

“What ABC needs to do,” says Mullis, “is talk to [Chairman of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Dr. Anthony] Fauci and [Dr. Robert] Gallo [one of the discoverers of HIV] and show that they’re assholes, which I could do in ten minutes.”

Kary B. Mullis’ PCR Test

“The scientist who invented the PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) test kit was Kary B. Mullis. This technology is what they use today to test for the so-called coronavirus, said to be the cause of a disease which the health authorities such as the World Health Organizations (WHO) vaguely and inconsistently defined or identified. Mullis is among the many scientists who bravely question the narrative of the HIV-AIDS hypothesis.  Mullis did not believe what the mainstream, globalist elite-funded, science is claiming that the HIV retrovirus is causing the AIDS disease. He was an important member of the “Group for the Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis, the 500-member protest organization pushing for a re-examination of the cause of AIDS”. According to him on his 1992 Spin interview, “PCR made it easier to see that certain people are infected with HIV and some of those people came down with symptoms of AIDS. But that doesn’t begin even to answer the question, ‘Does HIV cause it?’”

“Meanwhile, also from interview by Celia Farber, Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics, stated:

“You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it. You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PRC test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms”

Asked by Farber what his advice for people who want to be tested for COVID-19, he replied:

“Don’t do it, I say, when people ask me. No healthy person should be tested. It means nothing but it can destroy your life, make you absolutely miserable. Every time somebody takes a swab, a tissue sample of their DNA, it goes into a government database. It’s to track us. They’re not just looking for the virus. Please put that in your article.”

He added:

“PCR for diagnosis is a big problem. When you have to amplify it these huge numbers of time, it’s going to generate massive amounts of false positives. Again, I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true.” https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/

Below are excerpts of an article by Celia Farber regarding the PCR test and its inventor Kary Mullis.

**”What do we mean when we say a person “tests positive” for Covid-19?

We don’t actually mean they have been found to “have” it.

We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)”

”Kary Mullis was a scientist. He never spoke like a globalist, and said once, memorably, when accused of making statements about HIV that could endanger lives: “I’m a scientist. I’m not a lifeguard.” That’s a very important line in the sand. Somebody who goes around claiming they are “saving lives,” is a very dangerous animal, and you should run in the opposite direction when you encounter them. Their weapon is fear, and their favorite word is “could.” They entrap you with a form of bio-debt, creating simulations of every imaginable thing that “could” happen, yet hasn’t. Bill Gates has been waiting a long time for a virus with this much, as he put it, “pandemic potential.” But Gates has a problem, and it’s called PCR.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/covid-19-does-sweden-have-herd-immunity

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On 9/23/2020 at 6:11 PM, shitshow said:

 

Threats of house arrest and sacking will not be enough to persuade people to take the Covid vaccine

By Peter Andrews, Irish science journalist and writer based in London. He has a background in the life sciences, and graduated from the University of Glasgow with a degree in genetics

The establishment's push for a compulsory Covid vaccine is well underway, with top medical journal the NEJM the latest to call for one. But people power is against them, and no amount of propaganda will help them get their way.

On Thursday, The New England Journal of Medicine published a perspective entitled ‘Ensuring Uptake of Vaccines against SARS-CoV-2.’ It quickly began to gain traction, with tens of thousands of views and reports in the media. Alex Berenson, a former New York Times journalist whose agitating against the Covid hysteria has been ceaseless and outstanding, brought attention to the paper on his Twitter account on Thursday.

The plan for forced vaccines

The paper is billed directly as a blueprint for foreign governments to roll out a mandatory Covid vaccine. And although the vaccine arrival date is unknown, the authors emphasise that "states can apply [this framework] now." The message is: it’s time to start laying the propaganda groundwork.

The paper begins with the schoolmarm-ish warning that "a recent poll found that only 49% of Americans planned to get vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2." I don’t know about you, but to me that seems remarkably high. Perhaps President Trump’s staunchly pro-vaccine rhetoric has contributed to the figure. But it is nowhere good enough for the high-priests of the NEJM, who all of a sudden seem very concerned with achieving herd immunity via vaccination. Funny, seeing as no one in power seems to like the idea of herd immunity when Sweden (who were never aiming for it) is brought up.

Nevertheless, the authors almost win the sceptical reader over with their plea for "the best available evidence about the vaccine’s safety and efficacy." That seems honourable – let the evidence decide. But they immediately affix that statement with "the possibility that the evidence underlying FDA approval of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines may be more modest than usual." Sometimes you have to admire the neck of these people. No doubt soon dissenters like me will be arrested on the basis of "modest evidence."

World’s fastest vaccine

One perfectly reasonable response to compulsory vaccines is that vaccines are not 100 percent safe. And this is not the rant of some paranoid anti-vaxxer, but something that the medical community and policy makers factor in when they weigh up the pros and cons of any mass vaccination campaign. If anyone ever tries to tell you that all vaccines are harmless all the time, you can stop listening to them immediately. Even if common vaccines are safe for the vast majority of people, nothing is 100 percent safe – not walking up the stairs, not eating your dinner.

That being the case, even the safest Covid-19 vaccine ever will have harmful effects for some of the citizenry. How does it look if that vaccine was forced upon the person suffering horrendous or permanent side effects under threat of prosecution?

There is a reason that most rich countries, including the US and the UK, have special funds set aside to pay compensation to people who are damaged by vaccines. But those funds will take a kicking if governments compel their entire public to take what would be the fastest vaccine ever developed. That is, unless they issue some diktat after the fact absolving themselves of responsibility in case of collateral damage. And why not? The Big Pharma firms already have (for ostensibly good public health reasons).

Substantive penalties

The authors are wily enough, however, to caution politicians against criminal penalties, as they "invite legal challenges on procedural due-process grounds." Ah, that pesky due process! Never mind though – there are plenty of other rights and privileges that can be stripped away from people without so much as an official letter in the post. 

The paper, for instance, says "Substantive penalties could be justified, including employment suspension or stay-at-home orders for persons in designated high-priority groups who refuse vaccination." Job losses and house arrest. But those are only some of the options. Technology and Big Data are handy tools, don’t you know. Just look to how China denies their citizens entry to certain buildings and transport if their ‘social credit’ score is not good enough.

Whatever ‘penalties’ politicians and bureaucrats devise for free, law-abiding people, though, we can be sure that there will be plenty of creativity on show.

And if you think the American populace is divided and politicized now in how it approaches measures to deal with Covid-19, imagine what mandatory vaccination will do to these rifts. So dear technocrat scientists, while top-down legal coercion seems like a neat solution to quickly achieve the desired medical result, the real world is a more complex place. Step carefully.

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Amenințările cu arestul la domiciliu și concedierea nu vor fi suficiente pentru a convinge oamenii să ia vaccinul Covid

 

De Peter Andrews, jurnalist științific și scriitor irlandez cu sediul la Londra. Are studii în științele vieții și a absolvit Universitatea din Glasgow cu o diplomă în genetică
Presiunea instituției pentru un vaccin Covid obligatoriu este în plină desfășurare, iar jurnalul medical de vârf NEJM este cel mai recent care solicită unul. Dar puterea oamenilor este împotriva lor și nici o cantitate de propagandă nu îi va ajuta să-și facă drum.

Joi, The New England Journal of Medicine a publicat o perspectivă intitulată „Asigurarea absorbției vaccinurilor împotriva SARS-CoV-2.” A început rapid să câștige tracțiune, cu zeci de mii de vizualizări și rapoarte în mass-media. Alex Berenson, fost jurnalist al New York Times, a cărui agitare împotriva isteriei Covid a fost neîncetată și remarcabilă, a atras atenția asupra ziarului de pe contul său de Twitter joi.


Planul pentru vaccinuri forțate

Lucrarea este facturată direct ca plan pentru guvernele străine să lanseze un vaccin Covid obligatoriu. Și, deși data sosirii vaccinului este necunoscută, autorii subliniază că „statele pot aplica [acest cadru] acum”. Mesajul este: este timpul să începem să punem bazele propagandei.

Ziarul începe cu avertismentul schoolmarm-ish că „un sondaj recent a constatat că doar 49% dintre americani au planificat să se vaccineze împotriva SARS-CoV-2”. Nu știu despre tine, dar mie mi se pare remarcabil de mare. Poate că retorica fermă a vaccinului președintelui Trump a contribuit la această cifră. Dar nu este nicăieri suficient de bun pentru marii preoți ai NEJM, care dintr-o dată par foarte preocupați de obținerea imunității turmei prin vaccinare. Amuzant, văzând că nimănui la putere pare să nu-i placă ideea imunității turmei când este adusă Suedia (care nu au avut niciodată scopul).

Cu toate acestea, autorii aproape câștigă cititorul sceptic cu pledoaria lor pentru „cele mai bune dovezi disponibile cu privire la siguranța și eficacitatea vaccinului”. Pare onorabil - lăsați dovezile să decidă. Dar ei aplică imediat această declarație cu „posibilitatea ca dovezile care stau la baza aprobării de către FDA a vaccinurilor SARS-CoV-2 să fie mai modeste decât de obicei”. Uneori trebuie să admiri gâtul acestor oameni. Fără îndoială, în curând, disidenții ca mine vor fi arestați pe baza „dovezilor modeste”.


Cel mai rapid vaccin din lume

 

Un răspuns perfect rezonabil la vaccinurile obligatorii este că vaccinurile nu sunt 100% sigure. Și aceasta nu este dezbaterea unor anti-vaxxer paranoici, ci ceva ce ia în considerare comunitatea medicală și factorii de decizie politică atunci când analizează avantajele și dezavantajele oricărei campanii de vaccinare în masă. Dacă cineva încearcă vreodată să vă spună că toate vaccinurile sunt inofensive tot timpul, puteți înceta să le ascultați imediat. Chiar dacă vaccinurile obișnuite sunt sigure pentru marea majoritate a oamenilor, nimic nu este 100% sigur - să nu urci scările, să nu mănânci cina.

În acest caz, chiar și cel mai sigur vaccin Covid-19 care va avea vreodată efecte nocive pentru unii cetățeni. Cum arată dacă acel vaccin a fost forțat asupra persoanei care suferă efecte secundare oribile sau permanente sub amenințarea urmăririi penale?

Există un motiv pentru care majoritatea țărilor bogate, inclusiv SUA și Marea Britanie, au alocate fonduri speciale pentru a plăti compensații persoanelor afectate de vaccinuri. Dar aceste fonduri vor lua o lovitură dacă guvernele își vor obliga întregul public să ia ceea ce ar fi cel mai rapid vaccin dezvoltat vreodată. Adică, cu excepția cazului în care emit un diktat după faptul că se absolvesc de responsabilitate în caz de daune colaterale. De ce nu? Firmele Big Pharma au deja (din motive aparent bune de sănătate publică).


Sancțiuni de fond

 

Cu toate acestea, autorii sunt suficient de înșelători pentru a-i avertiza pe politicieni împotriva sancțiunilor penale, întrucât „invită contestații legale din motive procedurale echitabile”. Ah, acel proces plictisitor! Nu contează, totuși - există o mulțime de alte drepturi și privilegii care pot fi eliminate de la oameni fără o scrisoare oficială în post.

Ziarul, de exemplu, spune că „s-ar putea justifica sancțiuni substanțiale, inclusiv suspendarea angajării sau ordinele de ședere la domiciliu pentru persoanele din grupurile desemnate cu prioritate ridicată care refuză vaccinarea”. Pierderi de locuri de muncă și arest la domiciliu. Dar acestea sunt doar câteva dintre opțiuni. Nu știi, tehnologia și Big Data sunt instrumente la îndemână. Uitați-vă doar la modul în care China le refuză cetățenilor lor intrarea în anumite clădiri și transporturi dacă scorul lor de „credit social” nu este suficient de bun.

Oricare ar fi „sancțiunile” pe care politicienii și birocrații le concep pentru oameni liberi, care respectă legea, putem fi siguri

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2020926?query=recirc_artType_railA_article

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Vazusem o stire cum ca Twitter dezactiveaza toate conturile alora care-i doresc moartea lui Trump de cand cu stirea c-are COVID.

 

"president dying of a virus during a pandemic a month before a massive election would prob be craziest US political event since lincoln’s assassination

crazier than JFK death for sure bc that was a random one off event and most JFK’s notoriety was in retrospect because of the brutality of his death, trump is already one of the most controversial presidents ever"

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2 hours ago, em20346 said:

o sa ne bage iar in carantina... 2 luni maxim

 

 

yep. deja se anunta inchiderea cafenelelor si restaurantelor. in orasele in care nu s a anuntat oficial treaba asta, patronii de localuri cumva au aflat ca urmeaza sa, drept urmare, returneaza marfa sau isi opresc comenzile facute in avans.

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8 hours ago, Nytro said:

Eu cunosc personal din ce in ce mai multe cazuri si nu e de joaca... 

Cred ca ar fi necesara o carantina de 2-3 saptamani sa se linisteasca apele. Sincer. 

nu ar fi rau. ma gandesc ca nu mori daca mai stai 3 saptamani in casa fara sa iesi dimineata la cafea .... sau sa mergi la un film seara. fuck it. suntem romani. FILELIST 4 LIFE.

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Daca vreti sa aflati mai multe va recomand: "O planeta plina de virusi".

 

Am cumparat-o si am citit-o ieri, usor de inteles si acopera multe. Nu si Covid, ca e scrisa prin 2015 cred, dar toate celelalte virusuri comune.

 

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Sars Cov 1 si 2 sunt coronavirusi de mici dimensiuni cuprinse intre 60 si 140 nanometri. Stiu ca este greu de crezut ca acest tip de virus s-a transferat de la liliac la pangolin si la miau-miau sau mai stiu eu ce specie ajungand la om tot cu o dimensiune la fel de mica poate chiar mai mica dar dupa unele studii exista un virus si mai mic decat sars cov 1 si 2, virus denumit "parvovirus" ce produce parvoviroza boala gastrointestinala fiind transmis de la rozatoare prin urina soarecilor. Virusul acesta se regaseste insa si la lilieci dar si la caini si pisici care s-au infectat de la rozatoare si care dezvolta boala. Pentru oameni in majoritatea cazurilor parvoviroza este o boala mortala, in cazul celor infectati se incearca tratarea cu antibiotice pe baza de sulfamide, cine scapa, cine nu...

 

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Coronavirusii sunt foarte multi ei fiind impartiti in mai multe clase dupa secventele genetice si dupa modul de actiune: Beta, Kappa, Alpha, Theta, etc. Pana si o forma de rino - sinuzita identificata la bovine este cauzata de un virus de tip coronavirus iar o mutatie a acestui tip de rino - coronavirus descoperita recent se pare ca se transmite si la om. Sars Cov 2 prezinta secvente de la mai multe grupe de coronavirusi dar si alte secvente foarte ciudate despre care nu voi vorbi acum. H1N1pdm09 este si el un coronavirus poate unul dintre cei mai mortali si mai contagiosi iar acest tip de virus sufera mutatii de la an la an.

 

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Betacoronavirusul a putut fi identificat in anul 2001 de o echipa de cercetatori in fecale iar infectia cu acest tip de coronavirus provoaca diaree acuta, infectarea bacteriilor benefice organismulu uman, iar in anul 2012 utilizand o metoda relativ simpla de testare diferita de cea Real Time PCR, metoda denumita reverse transcription loop-mediated isothermal amplification (RT-LAMP) assay for rapid detection of BCoV-1 au reusit testarea si identificarea acestui virus cu o rata de succes de 99.7%. Metoda este una mai simpla si se realizeaza la temperatura camerei cu rezultate mult mai bune comparativ cu Real Time PCR. In luna august 2020 se pare ca au redescoperit acest nou - vechi procedeu de testare LAMP.

Acesti virusi sunt reali, naturali sau modificati, ei exista de zeci de ani si probabil vor mai exista mult timp in ciuda tentativei globale de a intrerupe lanturile de transmitere.

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Stiu ca este greu de crezut ca acest tip de virus s-a transferat de la liliac la pangolin si la miau-miau sau mai stiu eu ce specie ajungand la om tot cu o dimensiune la fel de mica poate chiar mai mica’

 

de ce? sunt studii efectuate in directia asta. chiar de catre universitatile mari ale Chinei. imi amintesc ca citeam chiar pe 9gag (sursa de fun cica) cum ca oamenii lor de stiinta avertizau ca e doar o bomba cu ceas pana se va intampla ceva din cauza mancatorilor de lilieci, inaripate care poarta virusi de tip sars. 

 

toate astea le zic in contextul in care covid ar fi pornit de acolo.

un caz de covid (confirmat de ambulantieri cu test) de la munca s a sfarsit cu revenirea miraculoasa a persoanei in 2 zile, stand acasa. fml

ori femeia e wolverine, ori covidelu a fost noob.

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Dintotdeauna a exista si mereu va exista schimb de virusi de la animale catre oameni si de la oameni catre animale. Rinovirusurile care in general provoaca raceala au plecat de la pasari la om. Gripa porcina si aviara au plecat de la oameni la animale. La fel se intampla si in cazul unor virusuri nasoale, Covid nu e asa nasol dar Ebola de exemplu este si provine de la maimute.

 

Si de fapt problema nu e ca oamenii mananca animale. Problema, in cel mai rau caz, e daca sunt mancate nepreparate. De exemplu un virus foarte asemanator Ebola a ajuns la cercetatori din Germania care lucrat cu maimute transate, din sangele lor probabil.

 

 

Cel mai probabil, din punctul meu de vedere, avantajul de a manca animale "domestice" este faptul ca oamenii interactioneaza cu ele de zeci de mii de ani si trecand prin diversi virusi de-a lungul timpului, omenirea a capatat imunitate buna. 

 

De asemenea, animalele sunt o sursa foarte buna de "vaccinuri". Variola care ucidea 30% dintre cei care erau infectati a fost eradicata cu ajutorul bovinelor. Exista si o variola bovina care la om nu provoca moartea (poate in proportie de 2%) si s-a descoperit observat ca laptaresele fac o forma mult mai usoara de variola, astfel, oamenii care erau infectati cu variola bovina faceau o forma mult mai usoara si capatau imunitate. 

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